Hear Harinder Singh and Surinder Singh Jodhka in a cross-continental conversation on historical and contemporary caste dynamics through the life and times of Giani Dit Singh. How did Guru Nanak Sahib approach one of the most rigid social constructions of the time? How is caste similar to and different from its original intent and practice in larger Hindu and Indic society? How did this lay the foundations for principled anti-caste practice? How do caste dynamics continue to play out in Panjab, India, and abroad? Surinder Singh Jodhka is a Professor of Sociology at the Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi. He researches on different dimensions of social inequalities – old and new – and the processes of their reproduction. The empirical focus of his work has been the dynamics of caste; studies of agrarian social change and contemporary rural India; and the political sociology community identities.